Open Monday-Friday - 8:00am-5:00pm. Bona Traffic remains clear for the life of the floor meaning it will not amber or turn yellow with time. Does any have any tips how I can fix by myself? If you want the best of the best in surface finishes, this is it. I’ve read bona traffic and traffic HD are amazing but they are very pricey. Hi Tadas! AT or WB easier to apply if never used the product? Open Monday-Friday – 8:00am-5:00pm. The only one I have found so far is Stonewood products – they use the Rubio Monocoat. If I wanted to darken it slightly with a stain prior to application what type would you recommend? Do you consider Waterlox tung oil a hardwax finish? For one thing, they are the most “green” and environmentally friendly finishes available at the moment. I am peeling up some 1950 linoleum to expose and refinish Doug Fir for my kitchen renovation. Another downside to high-end water based finishes is the price. Thanks in advance! If you want something completely out of the ordinary and unique then you’ll definitely want to consider this option. Professional flooring contractors don’t want floors to fail anymore than clients do. If I had a choice I’d go with the two component one in the link above. I would have a chat to your contractor about your concerns. We’re always happy to help. The main difference of makeup is that one has a catalyst and the other does not. Per your recommendation the Loba supra WB or AT is highly recommended. Significantly outperforms all urethane finishes, including Bona Traffic, in durability at 24 hours. Yes we use Universal Maintenance Oil for this. 2. Loba manufactures extremely good finishes though and come very recommended. Just follow the data sheet for drying instructions according to your climate. While traditional Traffic literally re-defined the area of wear, HD takes it even further. There is a clear winner for which to use. You have a choice between matte, satin, semi-gloss and gloss with most finish systems. (208) 724-3827 || info@a-maxhardwood.com This is the first stage of applying Rubio Monocoat…. As far as sealing and using a hardwax oil on the sample floor you saw – do you know what the product was? (208) 724-3827 - info@a-maxhardwood.com Traffic beats the competition with over 2x the build, this is important as it signifies that it will outlast the other products durability. One downside to water based finishes is the color if you have Red Oak floors. First, we will go over sealers. I just found your blog and it has been such a tremendous help! Ps, our flooring contractor recommended Bona Traffic HD. Is this a good choice? A finish can dictate how long your floor will last between each coat and ultimately how long your floor will last for in its entirety. Better to save it for a few years and then get a maintenance coat done if need be. I also save $200 if I go to oil, but since the last finish lasted 14 years I really don’t care about the $200. However, when I asked several of the contractors, who came to give me estimates, about it, they all warned against using water based poly over a stained wood because of the chance that it would develop the white lines in the gaps between the boards. (120‐100 g/m²) Potlife: 4 timer v. 20°C Any info you have will be greatly appreciated! It’s 10-15% more durable with a better flow and leveling compared to Traffic. Nowadays, the majority of people want to avoid the yellow/amberizing effect that occurs over time (this is driven mainly by sunlight, but also interior light), and Bona Traffic provides much better protection for your floors. Bona Traffic HD is for hardwood floor owners with an uncompromising attitude towards durability, being green and looking beautiful. Bona Traffic HD is a waterborne wood floor finish that provides an exceptional level of durability and ease of use. It’s very durable and doesn’t show scratches easily because of the very low sheen. What do u think of provincial? No Waterlox is not classified as a hardwax oil finish. After considerable time and expense spent testing of dozens of two component finishes we have decided on a product from the same German company—Pallmann. A good finish will last 15 years so, 4 re-sands x 15 = 60 years. I’ve also read that Glitsa MAxx is great too. Also, based on the type of wood I have should I look for a company that uses the hardwax oil finishes? Thanks so much, Carol. Would you give me your thoughts on Loba’s hard wax oil, HS2K Impact Oil? $116.96 $ 116. Personal experience from a long time experienced refinisher that continually tests different products and has a different finish system in every room of his home as well as his friends homes is about the best data you can get for the time being – at least until we can afford a couple of scientists, a lab and years of free time :). Thanks in advance. This was a very large house, we want last finish. For background, I have unfinished glued-on engineered wood with 4mm wear layer, that’s finished in-place natural. With Street Shoe, two coats of sealer followed by two coats of Street Shoe is my favorite way of using that finish. Its a better option than using a lower quality finish and still not having a perfect match. Regarding the stain, I love the grain in the floors but would really like to tone down the red, any brilliant ideas? We didn’t like the smell or fumes though. Hi Becky. and If so, which one would you recommend? But after reading on your sites of fire hazard with these product makes me really concerned. 5. 1) Rubio is very durable and we have found it is not too sensitive for wet environments like kitchens and baths. Hi Tadas – love your posts. Your email address will not be published. Bona’s commercial-grade waterborne finishes, like Bona Traffic HD®, outperform all waterborne competitor finishes in durability tests and are used on hardwood floors in malls, airports, restaurants, bars and other high-traffic commercial spaces worldwide. We recommend that our customers get a Satin finish since it will hide scratches and other flaws in the floor created by foot traffic to be hidden. They have great professional high-end finish systems too. Thanks for any recommendations you can give! These are among the most expensive finishes. Floors are white oak finished with a loba oyster impact oil. Color testing first on small area of floor is a must. Our wholesale price for a gallon of high-end finish is in the triple digits—compared to say maybe $30.00 for cheap “handyman” finish. You can see that top quality finishes can triple your floors life and why it is important to know what finish your contractor is using and if it will be the best for your floor. The reason I am asking is that I need to refinish our prefinished oak flooring and we would like it to reasonably match the newer oak treads we put on our stairway about 6 years ago. We have toddlers. Yes Pallmann Magic Oil is a great finish and we highly recommend it. Bona wants you to apply Traffic HEAVY but one risks puddles that way. One of your main concerns when redoing your floor should be what type of finish you are using on your floor. Yesterday, I had a massive flood in my NYC condo from my neighbor above me. We are looking for exactly what you look for in a finish: Has to look good, long-lasting, durable to traffic and resistant to spills and relative easy maintenance and repair, non “yellow” excessively over time. He recommended his usual combo for our job – which he said looks like ‘silk’ and everyone loves it. To get scientific testing data for all the finishes available (there are hundreds) and then compare them in every ‘wear’ situation would be a huge and very expensive undertaking. I live in Oregon so i unfortunately cant hire you here to refinish our floors. It would look great on those floors. It can be an issue with water based finishes though like you were told. You will need to take your time and go through a few samples to get a good match though. Have you ever done 2 coats of Invisible Protect AT with a top coat of Supra Satin AT on top for some sheen? Thank you, Alli. Help. Both are very good finishes. If you get a hardwood floor installation or refinish from us you can be assured you will get 1 coat of Glitsa Green Sealer and 2 coats of Bona Traffic. Here are the application instructions (go to the download link): http://www.loba.de/us/products/waterborne-finishes/2-component-waterborne-finishes/product/2k-supra-at.html. Do the two-component finish work on stair components? I would get that issue sorted out first. The prefinished oak flooring on the first floor was a natural color, but we figured that we would just have it stained gunstock to match the stairs when it came time to refinish it so it would eventually match! Oil or WS Easy? However, the idea of pre-finished flooring is preferable because finish-in-place would mean that we would not be able to use the living space at all for a period of time, and we would have to move ALL of the furniture out of the hose during this time. You can have other issues if there are too many coats of finish on a floor. After the third coat didn’t have great protection, I ended up with the worst case option of re-sanding everything down to bare wood and going with an oil based finish. As all the others mentioned above, I wish you were in the NYC area so I could hire you for my home project! We will use the 4 re-sand number for this example. Did you like the higher VOC oil based finishes better than the 2 component water base ones before they were banned? The professional we hired told us to pick a water-based stain from Minwax, but their “charcoal grey” reads blue to me. If you get the color of the stain right, then it shouldn’t pose too much of an issue. I was very happy with the look, the grain did not go flat and the satin finish is what I wanted. -JP. Mixing Traffic part A with part B begins the hardening process of the finish. We’re convinced this is the best single component water based finish on the market today. The catalyst is an industrial grade hardener and when it’s mixed into the finish, the chemicals blend and mix to form an extremely tough and extremely durable and scratch resistant floor system when it’s dry and cured. It has some surface build and can be restored every six months with a new maintenance coat. You will get 2 coats of this. 4 coats will give you a nice strong finish. Loba only available from Germany. I prefer a three coat approach with Traffic at 500 ft. per gallon. Sorry for the late reply. There are two primary sealers in the Boise, Idaho hardwood market are catalyst sealers and waterborne sealers. But like you, I do wish it was available too. Bona Traffic; 4. After reading this “One downside to water based finishes, if you have oak floors, is the color. I want a matte finish that will handle wear and tear. Thanks for sharing…. (We will be staining our oak strip floors a medium brown/gunstock color.) So there you have it. Or should we look at 2-part water finish? It is too shiny for our liking! This means if your finisher isn’t an expert at applying them and he messes a coat up, the entire floor will have to be re-sanded (meaning more flooring removed) and the finish reapplied from scratch. Bona Traffic HD é o verniz mais resistente e com a secagem mais rápida do mundo. Mix just enough to do a small section at a time and then there will be much less pressure. We use other Loba products and they are a very reputable brand. The highest gloss level they can attain is a subtle satin sheen, and that is only specific products such as Pallmann Magic oil. trying to decide between Loba Supra and Loba 2k – thoughts? 4.8 out of 5 stars 20. Your stairs may be a different grading of wood, and if so they will look a little different anyways. Contractor says he will do 2 coats of finish and one coat sealer, are they the same or sealer is different from finish. We are looking to refinish the exiting floors and add matching site-finished white oak in the kitchen. Bona Traffic is a 2-component waterbased wood floor finish. It’s hard to recommend a finish without looking at all the factors involved including the floors, setting and cleaning schedule in person. I love the graphics, too! :) Anyway, in your opinion, would rebuffing and adding a final coat of Supra 2K Satin likely yield a uniform satin finish, or might it still be shiny because of the first 2 coats of semigloss? Invaluable! I’m going to have a white oak #2 grade floor and walnut character grade floor sanded and refinished. After years of testing all the leading hardwax oil finishes we have decided to offer 2 options (depending on the look, color and sheen you are hoping for) — Pallmann Magic Oil (our #1 choice) followed by Rubio Monocoat. We also offer this system to homeowners that want the absolute best surface finish system they can invest in for their home. Sounds like a good choice for the type of floors you have, Brazilian Cherry is beautiful and water based finishes work extremely well with them. to have provincial windows with oak cabinets and railings or should the windows stay golden oak and only have the provincial (darker) color on the floor. If different, what sealing product will go with above. You could use a color like ‘Natural’ for an oil finish look, or a darker color if you want it a deeper shade. Or will the 3 coats be enough? 4) Does Rubios fumed and smoke only work for white oak? Please lend me your advice. Hi Tadas, Thanks for the great info. Low VOC, GREENGUARD certified and fast drying, Bona Traffic HD is the smart choice. Because hardwax oils don’t form a plastic film that sits on top of the floor surface, it makes them far easier to spot repair than surface finishes if you ever do any damage to them. When the wood matters - Bona Traffic HD Extra Matte.This product comes with both the A and B parts. Good idea to test both and see what you prefer. Duraseal is a good finish company. One that we use and recommend has zero VOC’s. Would you recommend this and if so, which products? We can’t be certain how much of it was caused by the product and how much due to contractor error. It’s very different to Magic Oil though so make sure you read up on the differences between them to see what would be the best for your family. That means no more being driven out of your home for days on end by strong fumes and toxic chemicals. A large section of my engineered Brazilian cherry wood floor was damaged. We don’t mind rustic look but have to be able to keep it clean! Foot Traffic Considerations. I wanted oil, he convinced me this was the way to go. In our opinion, the durability is better than average polyurethane, but does that warrant the much-higher cost? Perhaps the local hardwood floor contractors aren’t as familiar with the higher end water-based polys? These products are designed to be applied with a roller, painters pad or t-bar. Thanks so much for your time and expertise! Hope that helps and your project goes well. Satin or semi-gloss? What do you recommend? Hi, Thanks for taking the time to provide this information. Since you now use Loba products, do you have any experience with Loba Supra AT? To answer your second question, at the time we liked the look of the old oil base finishes. Water based finishes had some challenges when they first came out but they have come a very long way in the past 10 years and we would never go back to oil based urethanes even if we had a choice. The other cost to consider is application. I’m leaning towards the Loba Supra as this is what the company I am leaning towards uses. Catalyzed Glitsa Green – A catalyst (in easy to understand terms) is an agent that mixes with the main liquid and creates a bond, almost like an epoxy. We have 3/4″ white oak in our home that is cupped, and just tested for up to 16% moisture content (we just bought the home so don’t know how long the cupping has been there or if it’s seasonal). Thanks – Mike. 4. All of those finishes you mentioned are good quality professional products. They come with the option of multiple sheen levels. How many applications are necessary 2 or 3. But I also want to be able to apply new oil in areas that need freshening up a bit, like the kitchen. I’ve ordered a sample size of each to try first to see how the finishes compare. It allows for full traffic to be resumed just 12 hours after application, and was developed for application on large surfaces. I am very happy other than the smell still hanging in there after two weeks. If properly applied and cared for, either one will wear well. I would recommend this finish as it’s very tough: http://www.duraseal.com/products/finishes/duraclear-max/. Do they ship to US? The finish does have to be applied properly according to the instructions 100% and then let cure completely. Bona Traffic Finishes Questions For People That Have Used It; 7. 4.4 out of 5 stars 108. We thought the finish was going to be Loba Supra 2K Satin, but what was applied was 1) Loba Easy Prime, 2) Loba Easy Finish Semi Gloss, 3) Loba Supra 2K Semi Gloss. They have a lot of things going for them over conventional surface finishes. Get a synthetic pad or foam brush? There are scratches already and I have a stain from water sitting on the floor over night, I am attempting to get rid of the stain by refinishing that area and hoping for the best. Thank you for the compliments… you’re more than welcome. I want worn-looking floors, in fact I don’t want them to look new at all! Loba Invisible AT would work well for this. Currently thinking the Pallmann Magic Oil and wanted to know your thoughts? I’ve been on a bit of a break. Personally I like the look of darker floors and windows being a more lighter/neutral color. At A-Max over our 15 years we have been using the best sealers/finishes. Like the other two finish systems we recommend, these finishes are highly water resistant, very durable and they’re easy to look after and maintain. Thank you so much, Tadas. I’m also considering the Osmo Polyx-oil. If we were doing it, we would make a sample close to the stairs to get as close a match as possible. Like Mega One and Mega, Traffic HD is a newer version of Bona’s original Traffic finish. The Supra AT comes in semi-gloss and matt sheens. The current floor sheen is semi gloss. I am finishing my first floor with Rubio Monocoat and would like to know your recommendation to increase the sheen of finish from matte to satin. The best way to deal with it would be to get in contact with a water damage restoration company. This will open the room more… the darker things are above the floors the smaller the room will feel. We haven’t used Supra AT on a project yet but we have been experimenting with it. Unfortunately, as with all floors, we have gaps and in some areas slight movement. Biggest concerns are water resistance, able to be cleaned well (occasionally with bleach), and scratch/abrasion resistance. They had a nice amber color, a deep, thick build and were relatively easy to apply. What Color Should I Stain My Wood Floors? 5. If you have a high traffic home with lots of dogs or children, or you’re always walking across your wood floors with your dirty shoes, then you might want to consider this commercial grade option. Would the Pallman’s Magic Oil be a good choice for us? This is what I would look into first. Some shoes can damage wood floors. I wish you were in my area of Maryland–I’d hire you to refinish my floors in a heartbeat. I’m interested in your thoughts on that also. If my hardwood floor contractor has not used this line, will he be able to do properly? I hope you have the time and are able to answer soon as I can not seem to get many solid answers from Rubio. Hello, Tadas! We had new red oak floors installed and existing red oak refinished. God bless you for your willingness to help so many people! You will get 1 coat of sealer. You can see our latest update of it here: https://napervillehardwood.com/blog/revisited-pallmann-magic-oil/. I would say go for a good quality high-end finish for your floors so they last a long time, and match them as best you can to the stairs. Bona Traffic HD Extra Matte is a floor finish for hardwood floor owners with an uncompromising attitude towards durability, being green and looking gorgeous. I came here again to refresh my memory about floor finishes after reading, on a high-end interior designer’s blog, that the old oil-based poly finishes aren’t as durable anymore as the older, higher voc ones–just as you state. Bona Traffic HD's 125 VOC is a 40% reduction compared to the regular Bona Traffic, and is less than half of the most strict laws that regulate floor finishes (Southern California's CARB). I am experimenting with the Monocoat Universal Maintenance Oil and the satin soap but have no experience. Either would be good but yes the Supra is more durable with the ceramic in it. 3. You don’t want the finish to be applied in 3 thick coats though. Have you ever had that problem with the Loba products you recommend or the Duraseal water-based poly? 2) Do you think there will be much of a color variance in how the various woods take the stains? I would really like to get an oil finish look under the Loba if possible. We haven’t no. One provider recommends one coat of stain followed by 2 coats of Easy Finish. Thanks again for taking the time to help :) Michelle. The older flooring is showing some wear and needs to be refinished.) So your floor will need to be stained first — either natural or in a color of your choice. Have a look at WD Flooring. You present your information in such a helpful and understandable way. The second one says stain then 3 coats of Easy Finish are required. Amazon's Choice for bona traffic hd. 43. I recommend to water pop the floor first before application of the finish. On an average floor you will get around 4-5 re-sands. That would depend on your budget. Thanks in advance. 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